tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post113991971564634875..comments2023-11-03T15:48:35.688+00:00Comments on Paul Linford: English knives out for BrownPaul Linfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01977920120772282561noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1140212902312376422006-02-17T21:48:00.000+00:002006-02-17T21:48:00.000+00:00Whilst the nationality of the PM should not be an ...Whilst the nationality of the PM should not be an issue, the constituency of the PM most certainly is, post-devolution. I am aware Blair is Scottish, but he was elected in England. Brown was not. He is democratically unaccountable to the people he rules over and that is a national disgrace and ought to be a cause for great shame to New Labour - and the rest of them who think that democracy is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1140211615535583812006-02-17T21:26:00.000+00:002006-02-17T21:26:00.000+00:00And from what I remember we had a quite civil emai...And from what I remember we had a quite civil email conversation where I explained my decision and you gratiously accepted it.Garethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10021800974251370747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1140211468561754722006-02-17T21:24:00.000+00:002006-02-17T21:24:00.000+00:00Play fair now Inamicus. I did not censor your com...Play fair now Inamicus. I did not censor your comments or ban you from posting. I closed down the comments on one post after people insulted you, and after you insulted me.<BR/><BR/>Passions run high on the CEP blog and I have to walk a fine line between the right to reply and insulting language.<BR/><BR/>For what it is worth I have replied to Paul's post.Garethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10021800974251370747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1140196294704729862006-02-17T17:11:00.000+00:002006-02-17T17:11:00.000+00:00Inamicus - this is such a good question I've repli...Inamicus - this is such a good question I've replied to it in a separate post.Paul Linfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01977920120772282561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1140180102111579102006-02-17T12:41:00.000+00:002006-02-17T12:41:00.000+00:00Paul - I entirely agree with the points you make. ...Paul - I entirely agree with the points you make. Far too much of the CEP site's content seems to be motivated by fervent anti-Scottishness rather than considered opinion. There's quite a nasty under-current and to take issue, even mildly, with their views results in a barrage of hostile responses and in my case, my posts being censored and banned.<BR/><BR/>As they didn't care to respond, perhapsInamicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12568351031853796862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1140122850962632282006-02-16T20:47:00.000+00:002006-02-16T20:47:00.000+00:00When in God's name did anyone last see a saloon ba...When in God's name did anyone last see a saloon bar ? The saloon bar - a place where men wore tie and ladies drank halves, is gone, vanished, defunct. It vanished with Respectable England. We are all trainer wearers now.<BR/><BR/>Even people like Aaronovitch who should know better use this tired cliche. It died around the same time as Mary Whitehouse (peace be upon her).Labanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031578024191117985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1140034561489078102006-02-15T20:16:00.000+00:002006-02-15T20:16:00.000+00:00Anything 'English' gets racism thrown at it.. Oh w...Anything 'English' gets racism thrown at it.. Oh well just another one. SighTommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08174645670302583782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139946683653836912006-02-14T19:51:00.000+00:002006-02-14T19:51:00.000+00:00Oh no. I have a demographic!Oh no. I have a demographic!JohnJohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12169881480004252423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139938552137498052006-02-14T17:35:00.000+00:002006-02-14T17:35:00.000+00:00I think that the link from the England Project may...I think that the link from the England Project may be sending a pro-English crowd here so I wouldn't necessarily take the views as representative.<BR/><BR/>For the record I wasn't accusing you (Paul) of using the term 'racist' with reckless abandon - but it has been done before which is why I like to come out strongly in defense against it.<BR/><BR/>If you knew me personally then you would Garethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10021800974251370747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139932050284981992006-02-14T15:47:00.000+00:002006-02-14T15:47:00.000+00:00I don't want to split hairs but what I said was it...I don't want to split hairs but what I said was <I>it doesn't seem so very far away from....saloon-bar racism.</I> In other words, not racism, but carrying some overtones of it.<BR/><BR/>I am grateful to all those who have replied, and it implies that unlike Gareth I don't necessarily know my audience on this blog! Feel free to keep the comments coming anyway.Paul Linfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01977920120772282561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139931102645006262006-02-14T15:31:00.000+00:002006-02-14T15:31:00.000+00:00I applaud the CEP for fighting for equality for En...I applaud the CEP for fighting for equality for England and its people. The English and Scots are not separate races anyway, so it is ridiculous to talk of "racism".<BR/>Too many PC people, like Mr Linford, up there in their comfortable ivory towers, spout nonsense about "racism" - it is a word which loses its weight when applied inappropriately. Mr Linford, please do not trivialise such an Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139930543288919912006-02-14T15:22:00.000+00:002006-02-14T15:22:00.000+00:00Too good to be too Scottish.Too good to be too Scottish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139930438798993142006-02-14T15:20:00.000+00:002006-02-14T15:20:00.000+00:00Sometimes it is best to lete the politicians speak...Sometimes it is best to lete the politicians speak for themselves. This extract from <A HREF="http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld/ldtoday/03.htm#spkr_1" REL="nofollow">Hansard</A> puts my case perfectly and simply.<BR/><BR/><I><B>Earl of Glasgow:</B> Is the noble Lord, Lord Baker of Dorking, seriously suggesting that a cabinet minister - no, let us go further: a future PrimeGarethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10021800974251370747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139926863382626052006-02-14T14:21:00.000+00:002006-02-14T14:21:00.000+00:00I am not a paid up member of the CEP but totally s...I am not a paid up member of the CEP but totally support their aim. To compare their campaign to a form of 'saloon-bar racism' is missing the mark by a long way. Yes - they are openly critical of both Scottish and Welsh MPs having a say on English only policy and may sometimes sound intolerant in their remarks. But they give equal criticism to English establishment figures who publicly support Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139926772135714462006-02-14T14:19:00.000+00:002006-02-14T14:19:00.000+00:00I think the campaign against Gordon Brown is a val...I think the campaign against Gordon Brown is a valid one. You are misunderstanding the reasoning behind it - the objection is not that he is Scottish but that he represents a Scottish constituency. If he was English and represented a Scottish constituency then that would still be objectionable. Tony Blair is Scottish but represents an English constituency and so the same argument hasn't been wonkotsanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04896256040598397497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12845739.post-1139921771632726142006-02-14T12:56:00.000+00:002006-02-14T12:56:00.000+00:00I commend you for picking up on this point. I have...I commend you for picking up on this point. I have seen various arguments presented under the guise of the "campaign for an English parliament", which is a perfectly laudable cause which we should all be thinking about, which are purely and simply anti-Scottish, just for the sake of it. I say to them: stick to the argument.BondWomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09194225259521277589noreply@blogger.com